Cmelak Z-37
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42 6 December 2021, 12:29
Michael Kohl
Hi Gordon and Harry. Nice to have you on board.
@ Gordon: Thanx for the compliment. I am still evolving my technique for painting small scale figures. This pilot is the first whose body I almost exclusively airbrushed (black primer, dark basic color and two highlight colors sprayed from top. Then a bit of dry brushing.) This procedure is rather quick and I quite like the outcome so far.
@ Harry: I have to start my dio layout yet. Showing both planes at takeoff will be a challenge.
Hi Gordon and Harry. Nice to have you on board.
@ Gordon: Thanx for the compliment. I am still evolving my technique for painting small scale figures. This pilot is the first whose body I almost exclusively airbrushed (black primer, dark basic color and two highlight colors sprayed from top. Then a bit of dry brushing.) This procedure is rather quick and I quite like the outcome so far.
@ Harry: I have to start my dio layout yet. Showing both planes at takeoff will be a challenge.
14 December 2021, 08:00
Thomas Kolb
Lovely! You are doing a great job on the Bumblebee, I am really curious about the Blaník.
Lovely! You are doing a great job on the Bumblebee, I am really curious about the Blaník.
25 December 2021, 23:45
Michael Kohl
Puuh. It is not that I was not warned, but I obviously still underestimated what kind of bi**h Yellow is as a color. I really liked my preshading, but having chosen silver as base and not white the shades sucked all the brightness out of the yellow coat. Pity that the pics neither show my efforts in pre- and postshading nor do they support my argument as they actually look quite ok. So, you gotta believe me - or not 😉.
Now what? Slash on more color and hope for more brightness without drowning the details? Go for white as a base and thus start all over again?
Having it put aside for a few days I finally made up my mind: Back to square one: white it will be. Postshading it will be.
Deep breath and I will go for it. Again what learned 😉
Puuh. It is not that I was not warned, but I obviously still underestimated what kind of bi**h Yellow is as a color. I really liked my preshading, but having chosen silver as base and not white the shades sucked all the brightness out of the yellow coat. Pity that the pics neither show my efforts in pre- and postshading nor do they support my argument as they actually look quite ok. So, you gotta believe me - or not 😉.
Now what? Slash on more color and hope for more brightness without drowning the details? Go for white as a base and thus start all over again?
Having it put aside for a few days I finally made up my mind: Back to square one: white it will be. Postshading it will be.
Deep breath and I will go for it. Again what learned 😉
26 December 2021, 23:29
Robert Podkoński
Keep calm and carry on, Thomas! (I know the pain...once I painted yellow wings of Testors Ryan trainer after giving the NMF to the whole assembly...at first seemed to be easier this way 😉 )
Keep calm and carry on, Thomas! (I know the pain...once I painted yellow wings of Testors Ryan trainer after giving the NMF to the whole assembly...at first seemed to be easier this way 😉 )
27 December 2021, 06:44
Thomas Kolb
Michael, I second your decision to restart the paintjob. For red and yellow, the best primer I have tried is Ultimate Primer White (UMP). You need to mist it on (unthinned, straight from the bottle) with a 0.5 mm needle at 30 PSI until you start to see the paint slowly build up and then continue with heavier coats. It will then self-level to a beautiful satin gloss white undercoat that will make yellow pop like magic.
Michael, I second your decision to restart the paintjob. For red and yellow, the best primer I have tried is Ultimate Primer White (UMP). You need to mist it on (unthinned, straight from the bottle) with a 0.5 mm needle at 30 PSI until you start to see the paint slowly build up and then continue with heavier coats. It will then self-level to a beautiful satin gloss white undercoat that will make yellow pop like magic.
27 December 2021, 08:41
Francky
I am preparing for painting a SF-260 Marchetti in yellow. This conversation really does not give me the comfort I need to start that process 🙂
I will use Humbrol (of course) on a grey base coat. Is that ok?
I am preparing for painting a SF-260 Marchetti in yellow. This conversation really does not give me the comfort I need to start that process 🙂
I will use Humbrol (of course) on a grey base coat. Is that ok?
27 December 2021, 11:14
Thomas Kolb
@Francky, I would strongly suggest to use only pure white under yellow. The same for red BTW. Yellow paint is called "weak", which means that it is translucent to some extent, no matter how many layers you apply. With multiple layers, you will start covering up the details, but the "vibrancy" will always be lacking.
@Francky, I would strongly suggest to use only pure white under yellow. The same for red BTW. Yellow paint is called "weak", which means that it is translucent to some extent, no matter how many layers you apply. With multiple layers, you will start covering up the details, but the "vibrancy" will always be lacking.
27 December 2021, 11:24
Łukasz Gliński
Yeah, grey is not the best base for the yellow/red stuff, go for either white or some sort of alu/silver base.
Yeah, grey is not the best base for the yellow/red stuff, go for either white or some sort of alu/silver base.
27 December 2021, 12:10
Gordon Sørensen
I built/painted an Airfix Chipmunk yellow with a Testors spray can. Just sprayed on the bare grey plastic and it took many, many! coats to get a solid colour.
I built/painted an Airfix Chipmunk yellow with a Testors spray can. Just sprayed on the bare grey plastic and it took many, many! coats to get a solid colour.
27 December 2021, 12:53
Michael Kohl
I can only second Thomas. If you have a few days patience, I can share my experience after switching to white too, but I am quite sure: if you want to be on the safe side - go white first.
I can only second Thomas. If you have a few days patience, I can share my experience after switching to white too, but I am quite sure: if you want to be on the safe side - go white first.
27 December 2021, 13:19
Robert Podkoński
Certain mates say that pale pink (yes!) is even better base for yellow and red:
AREA 88: F11F-1 Tiger (Gary MacBurn) | Album by strobez (1:72)
I have never tried it yet, but I am going to 😉
Certain mates say that pale pink (yes!) is even better base for yellow and red:
AREA 88: F11F-1 Tiger (Gary MacBurn) | Album by strobez (1:72)
I have never tried it yet, but I am going to 😉
27 December 2021, 13:36
Michael Kohl
Hi Robert, although I know from mine that pics can be misleading, the result on your linked build looks convincing.
Hi Robert, although I know from mine that pics can be misleading, the result on your linked build looks convincing.
27 December 2021, 13:46
Robert Podkoński
That's why I intend to try pink primer one day, Michael 😉 I have heard about its effectiveness from few unrelated sources.
That's why I intend to try pink primer one day, Michael 😉 I have heard about its effectiveness from few unrelated sources.
27 December 2021, 13:49
Michael Kohl
Max send me a private note pretty much in line with this reasoning. The question is: will I be brave enough to really really try pink?
Max send me a private note pretty much in line with this reasoning. The question is: will I be brave enough to really really try pink?
27 December 2021, 13:52
Spanjaard
Test on picture 24 certainly vindicates pink advisors. Pink is certainly the way to go
Test on picture 24 certainly vindicates pink advisors. Pink is certainly the way to go
29 December 2021, 00:03
Robert Podkoński
Testing has been a good idea, Thomas...And I do agree with Spanjaard here: pink primer seems to be the best 😉 Especially since yellow on Cmelaks has this deeper hue.
Testing has been a good idea, Thomas...And I do agree with Spanjaard here: pink primer seems to be the best 😉 Especially since yellow on Cmelaks has this deeper hue.
29 December 2021, 06:41
Greg Baker
I didn't believe it at first either. Guaranteed pink is the best undercoat for yellow. You usually only need one coat. Given how many yellow Tintin planes and trains I've built, I just wished I knew about it earlier. 😉
I didn't believe it at first either. Guaranteed pink is the best undercoat for yellow. You usually only need one coat. Given how many yellow Tintin planes and trains I've built, I just wished I knew about it earlier. 😉
29 December 2021, 07:11
Michael Kohl
Eduard provides color charts (and the corresponding decals, of course) for two different kinds of yellow paint: one with a more orange hue, the other more on the plain yellow side. As I intend to go for the latter one, I will choose white as base. But keeping pink in mind for future projects. A pink base might be especially useful if the yellow on your shelf lacks an orange/red hue.
Eduard provides color charts (and the corresponding decals, of course) for two different kinds of yellow paint: one with a more orange hue, the other more on the plain yellow side. As I intend to go for the latter one, I will choose white as base. But keeping pink in mind for future projects. A pink base might be especially useful if the yellow on your shelf lacks an orange/red hue.
29 December 2021, 11:48
Michael Kohl
@Thomas: the Ultimate primer you recommend seems hard to come by in Germany, as is the original Bagder primer from which it seems to be a rebottleing. Rumor has it that Ammo of Mig One Shot Primer is a throttle of the Badger primer too. So I will try that one on future projects.
@Thomas: the Ultimate primer you recommend seems hard to come by in Germany, as is the original Bagder primer from which it seems to be a rebottleing. Rumor has it that Ammo of Mig One Shot Primer is a throttle of the Badger primer too. So I will try that one on future projects.
29 December 2021, 11:51
Michael Kohl
Decal carrier film removal from Eduard decals: my two cents on that (thanx to bughunter for pointing it out in one of his builds). It is a nice feature that helps achieving the wanted painted on-look, but lifting off the first corner of the decal has every chance to mar the paint. One thing that helped in my case was to cut the outer perimeter of the film. The film seems to get thinner at the edges and I found this thin part of the film to be much harder to peel off the surface without scratching the paint. So my recommendation is to cut out the decal as you probably would with conventional decals anyhow - only that you do not have to be as precise.
Be aware that the film usually does not peel of in one go.
Maybe this elaboration helps a little bit. If you have any more tips or experiences to share - I am all ears.
Decal carrier film removal from Eduard decals: my two cents on that (thanx to bughunter for pointing it out in one of his builds). It is a nice feature that helps achieving the wanted painted on-look, but lifting off the first corner of the decal has every chance to mar the paint. One thing that helped in my case was to cut the outer perimeter of the film. The film seems to get thinner at the edges and I found this thin part of the film to be much harder to peel off the surface without scratching the paint. So my recommendation is to cut out the decal as you probably would with conventional decals anyhow - only that you do not have to be as precise.
Be aware that the film usually does not peel of in one go.
Maybe this elaboration helps a little bit. If you have any more tips or experiences to share - I am all ears.
9 January 2022, 23:16
Francky
coming back to this conversation: WHITE it will be. Tahnks a lot for the very helpfull information.
or pink maybe 🙂
coming back to this conversation: WHITE it will be. Tahnks a lot for the very helpfull information.
or pink maybe 🙂
10 January 2022, 14:33
Michael Kohl
Ho Francky: if you want to the yellow to look as it does in the bottle, choose white as a base, if you aim for a more orange hue go for pink.
Ho Francky: if you want to the yellow to look as it does in the bottle, choose white as a base, if you aim for a more orange hue go for pink.
11 January 2022, 12:18
Robert Podkoński
Good work with that undercarriage leg, Michael. I am impressed with your perseverance here... Keep it up!
Good work with that undercarriage leg, Michael. I am impressed with your perseverance here... Keep it up!
15 January 2022, 18:57
Alec K
Great work as perseverance on this build Michael, it's looking awesome. Great tips 👍
Great work as perseverance on this build Michael, it's looking awesome. Great tips 👍
23 February 2022, 13:21
Robert Podkoński
Really good work here, Michael! I am waiting impatiently for the final effect...
Really good work here, Michael! I am waiting impatiently for the final effect...
6 March 2022, 09:34
Michael Kohl
Hi Robert, nice to see your unwavering interest in this slow build. Stay tuned.
Hi Robert, nice to see your unwavering interest in this slow build. Stay tuned.
8 March 2022, 07:20
Michael Kohl
Thanks Zsolt and Finn. Nice to have you on board. Now after my holiday some progress should be possible.
Thanks Zsolt and Finn. Nice to have you on board. Now after my holiday some progress should be possible.
22 March 2022, 22:31
Marius
Sorry to hear about the problem with the support pin, but you obviously solved it. It looks very good so far still!
Sorry to hear about the problem with the support pin, but you obviously solved it. It looks very good so far still!
15 July 2022, 14:52