Bf 109 F-2/4 /Revell -ICM
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5 July 2013, 21:53
Roland SachsenhoferHello!
here you can see the first pictures of my new Bf-109 project. Revells boxing comprises the venerable ICM forms, that means, looking on the bright side, sharp edged wing trailing edges, an engine that may be displayed and nicely detailed parts in general. Decals are provided for Marseilles famous mount- not very inspiring.
So I took to a Bf 109 F from Kageros "Messerschmitts in North Africa": The pilot was Franz Schneider who had flown this Matuba based F-4 from 6./ JG 3 in the spring of 1942.
The pictures show how exaggerated the structures of the rudder have been molded; corregtion was easily done with some sand paper.
5 July 2013, 21:56
Greco OteroSeems to me that the rudder was made to be covered with something (tissue paper)? to replicate a fabric covered surface. correct me if I am wrong as I am not an expert on Me 109's or any other aircraft. but a lots of metal covered aircrafts from WWII had fabric covered ruders and elevators. just an idea that came to me when I saw it
6 July 2013, 05:55
Wim van der LuijtNice markings....I really like those Kagero profile and decal combinations...
6 July 2013, 06:45
Philip De KeyserGreat start Roland, I'm tuned, I have the ICM kit in my stash and like you say there are nice details on the kit. Looking forward to the build of this one😉
6 July 2013, 07:38
Dirk HeyerAfrican shemes are always welcome to me!
So keep on, I will take place and be tuned!
6 July 2013, 10:39
Roland SachsenhoferHi, thank you all for your interest!
Greco, as you have said: the Bf-109s rudders have been fabric covered, but I think it is a little bit strange to simulate this circumstance that excessive way!
Aghis, you had the pleasure of making Giselas acquaintance allready? 🙂
The cockpit is mainly the achievement of Eduard and a some use of pastels...
6 July 2013, 12:36
Roland SachsenhoferThe ongoing build reveals to me the (over-)complicated nature of the ICM kit.
A lot of fiddling is necessary and the parts fit is generally speaking not good... Because of the necessary excessive sanding and filling some of the sharp edges and nicely done details are in danger.
The pictures show you the model in the middle of sanding; it seems there will be a long way to go! 🙂
23 July 2013, 15:04
Bill GilmanYikes! The wing root fitting looked very bad, but you conquered it! I started the ICM 1:72 MiG-25 some time ago, but encountered many fit problems. It is now on my shelf of doom. Is this typical of ICM kits?
23 July 2013, 15:47
Aghis BarberopoulosI see what you mean Roland. Makes you more appreciative of Hasegawa...
23 July 2013, 16:50
Holger KranichI had this kit on my bench, last year...
It's not the easyest kit but the decals in the box are good to have handy!😢
23 July 2013, 19:10
Roland SachsenhoferHi- thank you for your kind comments!
Bill, I can´t say that, it is my first ICM experience. What I have heard about ICM kits makes me wonder how bad the fit is.
But for sure Revells decals are worth finding a built where to use them 🙂
24 July 2013, 14:25
Albi HitzHi Roland
I'm afraid I let this one in the basement ... you're not the first who confirmed that it's not a quick build ...
But you got the skills to manage this one ... well done so far!
I'll follow this on ...
24 July 2013, 19:32
Wim van der Luijt🙂 I have this kit too so I'm closely studying your pictures to see where the pitfalls are...not that I'm anywhere near your skill level! 😉
24 July 2013, 20:55
Michel Huijghe@Ronald
Because it's an ex-Revell mold does that mean that it has the same fit issues? The P-51 from ICM is from Tamiya if I remember correctly. I used to had that one in my stash. The Original ICM kits have some issues considering the Mig-3 which has some wing fuselage problems. I'm not sure about newer models from Alanger (ex-ICM).
25 July 2013, 06:08
Roland SachsenhoferHello, same notice as with the big brother build: I am late in saying thank you to your kind remarks! Michel, in my opinion these forms do not look like those I am used to find in kits with Revell origin- but maybe I my wrong with that. All of that I have heared about ICM kits fits very well to my experiences here...
Here are some pictures of the actual building process. I added preshading and -lighting with gloss black, yellow and white. Looks a little bit like a segmented bee... 🙂
28 July 2013, 16:58
Dirk HeyerWow Roland,
I`m confused, indeed!!!
You built models like others are changing their pants!!!
Am sure you employ a mob of pygmies at your hobby cave!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
29 July 2013, 15:54
Roland SachsenhoferHaha! Being an evil villain, constructing a miniature airforce flown by my determined mob of pygmies, aiming for world domination? Ääääh, rather not... 🙂))
29 July 2013, 18:07
Keith GervasiGreat job!! I wonder what happened to those wing roots. A friend built the ICM 109F-4/B and had no problems. His problem was the cowling panels did not line up.
29 July 2013, 18:56
Roland SachsenhoferThank you, I will do my best 🙂
Keith, the whole fuselage from the last canopy section forward is very fragile, attaching the DB with the not-to-be-glued exhausts does not help in this matter. I can imaging there are a lot of options for misfittings depending where you have started glueing the parts.
30 July 2013, 09:41
Holger KranichI had the same problem with mine. The enginesection is very fragile to work with.
Roland, do you plan to smooth the whole surface? I think it very rough like many ICM kits.
30 July 2013, 09:51
Roland SachsenhoferOh yes, rough it is indeed! I have polished the surfaces up to 2000er paper allready- in my opinion there is no way to avoid that because you have to sand on so many places.
30 July 2013, 10:13
Roland SachsenhoferSome improvements and addition had to be made on this ICM kit. I felt not sure about the form of the kits propeller blades. Particularly the tops seemed heavily wrong to me. So I decided to change them against those of an old Hasegawa kit I am cannibalizing for this odd kit. I had to saw of the ICM props before glueing the Hasegawa ones.
Second point is a completely missing antenna mount on the tailplane... I fabricated one from a fitting etched part- luckily it even has a needle eye! 🙂
31 July 2013, 09:54
Keith GervasiThanks for the info Roland. I was going to pick one up but maybe I'll wait a bit!
1 August 2013, 00:42
Roland SachsenhoferThe kit has surely it´s assets. Beside that in my opinion it is okay if a kit is a little bit tricky to build, but it´s not funny finding essential parts being done wrong or found missing.
1 August 2013, 09:58
Roland SachsenhoferThe paint is on the surfaces as is a first layer of Gunze clear gloss. Now to the decals and some decent weathering!
1 August 2013, 15:44
Roland SachsenhoferA small update: decals are applied, a second layer of Gunzes "gloss clear" should have sealed colours as decals....
Next I am trying to do a lively-dull finish.
3 August 2013, 17:06
Mike KI would love to build one but...planes are so difficult! How do you do it? All that painting as you go....it saps my mojo.
5 August 2013, 05:48
Roland SachsenhoferHello Mike!
Dictum: a modeller with your fabolous skills has no problems however with building aircraft. After looking at your projects it´s quite for sure it would be a inspiring pleasure to watch an aircraft developing on your workbench...
5 August 2013, 08:29
GeraldHey das ist aber ein netter Holzbock unter dein Modell hehe gefällt mir. 😉
Das Modell natürlich auch 👍
5 August 2013, 08:59
Roland SachsenhoferHallo Gerhard, der Holzbock soll ein kleiner augenzwinkernder Spaß sein- hat sich aber über die Jahre und Projekte als recht gut einsetzbar erwiesen 🙂
Exhaust stains have been applied and the Bf 109 stands on her own legs. Prop and tailwheel just clipped on and unfinished- as are a lot of minor parts...
5 August 2013, 10:21
Roland SachsenhoferThank you for your words! I hope to get her finished the next days... but where can I get a fitting umbrella? 🙂
6 August 2013, 06:59
Roland SachsenhoferThere really is one in the market? I did not suppose that! Thank you Michael, but it seems to be out of range for me.
7 August 2013, 09:11
Albi HitzYes Roland, the Hobbycraft kit contains an umbrella, i bought one Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-3/4 "Russian Front" because of that...
7 August 2013, 09:57
Roland SachsenhoferHello Albi, did you make use of it yet? Will bring extraordinary athmosphere to a model for sure... For this "Friedrich" I wan´t go after it, by the way: ICMs variations doesn´t show the clamps attached to most tropicalised versions.
The building process has come to an end; I show you some pictures of the finished Bf109 F. I had to be quite ambitious to get to a reasonable result...
Thank you all for your interest and your comments!
7 August 2013, 15:22
Holger KranichOutstanding what you made from The kit! Des is a Schmankerl! Und genauso selten zu sehen wie Almdudler in Norddeutschland!😢
8 August 2013, 19:52
Roland SachsenhoferThank you for the comments! You can hardly do this kit without a decent amount of work and some improvisation, but, after all, I would say it´s worth the extra effort.
Jo hö Holga, hob gar net gwusst, dass Ihr da om oan da nordsee a "Des is a Schmankerl" sogts wia wia! "Almdudler" ist bei Euch wohl so selten wie... ich sag einmal "Eiergrog" bei uns 🙂
9 August 2013, 09:03
Holger KranichJo, doa legts Di nieder, was?😢
Das bringt mich auf eine kulinarische Idee: Erst Labskaus und dann Kaiserschmarrn! Im -sinne der Nord-Süd Freundschaft werde ich das mal testen!😢
9 August 2013, 09:31
Wim van der Luijten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiserschmarrn
the Bavarians will probably claim it 😄
9 August 2013, 09:58
Roland SachsenhoferUnd ob Holger! Der ist so ur-österreichisch wie Mozartkugeln, des Kaisers Backenbart und die Neutralität. Da können die Bayern ruhig zu reklamieren versuchen... Falls Du diese kulinarische Nord-Süd Freundschaft überlebst- lass es mich wissen! 🙂 Wim, danke für den Link!
9 August 2013, 16:14
Roland SachsenhoferHi, thank you both very much!
The kit is a little bit complicated in some respects but quite satisfying when mastered...
12 August 2013, 05:36
