Bell 205 UH-1D, BW SAR - 71+47
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51 8 June 2020, 18:06
Hanno KleineckeWhere's my chair ? Checkin' in ! Barely started, and already 30+ parts scratched...... veeery promising ! 👍
8 June 2020, 19:01
Gary KitchenI'm in. I'm only here a few weeks and already know this will be a build with legendary levels of detail. 👍
9 June 2020, 06:44
Bernhard SchrockYesterday I begun the new project and I can already tell a funny story🙂 At first I noticed that the control sticks in the kit differ from the excellent pictures of the BW Teppichklopfer (Thx David). I quickly changed them and proudly showed the result to David. Just to learn that the kit parts were right for 71+47... A great false start!
9 June 2020, 17:45
Slavo HazuchaJust take care to produce the matching 71+47 Data-sheet😉 I'll take a seat here for sure, after your detour into 72-scale, can't imagine what detail madness will be unleashed in big-scale... 👍
10 June 2020, 21:15
Slavo HazuchaThe scratch-built switches next to the co-pilots left leg place... 😮
18 June 2020, 11:18
Patrick HagelsteinI've been missing out on things going on on Scalemates for a while saying to myself 'I'll have a look at it tonight...' night after night, only to find out now that I have over 200 new messages... Let's start looking at mate's pictures and comments again! 😄 What better place to start than a Bernhard build? 😄 👍
18 June 2020, 18:17
bughunterHow could I missed this project? Great start with smallest Evergreen parts, as usual 👍 I'm in!
19 June 2020, 13:39
Bernhard SchrockNice to see no empty seats in the first row🙂. You are welcome.
Today I finished the Kartoffelkiste (potatobox) as stowage for medical equipment. As usual in excellent quality made by DF Helo Stuff.
19 June 2020, 18:20
TreehuggerOh, no I have that stepped plastic on my kit too. 🙁 I had no idea (parts still in the box).
24 June 2020, 19:06
TreehuggerI like the glossy paint look on the metal vs the matte seat fabric. 🙂 A nice contrasting effect.
27 June 2020, 08:54
David FunkeI think, you bulit this model in the 1950s and bell used your model as a template.... PS: AEG wants it´s 1/1 winch back... 😉
30 June 2020, 19:58
Slavo HazuchaExcellent as always - almost forgot during your 72-scale detour what you can unleash when working with properly sized models... 🙂 The hoist really looks like real and I also really like the "chewing gum" tank! 👍
30 June 2020, 20:56
Dietmar BogatzkiAuch der Kran ist wieder Megamäßig gelungen, aber denk bei der Auswahl der Markierungen daran, das nicht alle SAR Hubschrauber den Zusatztank hatten.
1 July 2020, 05:47
David FunkeAlle Kommando Maschinen (außer alpin) hatten den Tank. Da Bernhard eine Kdo Maschine baut, ist alles in der Norm.
1 July 2020, 07:13
Bernhard SchrockMoin alle Zsamm, nice to see & hear 🙂 that you like the (small) progress. I'm very lucky&happy modeler who get a tons of original pics and sources (thx David).
@Dietmar
Danke für Hinweis aber keine Bange: so wie David geschrieben hat wird nix installiert, was nicht richtig ist. Falls doch (Info kam zu spät) reisse ich Teile wieder ab und mache neu (wie bereits bei den Sitzen, die zuerst zu tief waren).🙂
1 July 2020, 07:57
Bernhard SchrockYesterday I had a very good Huey mood🙂 Today is the mood very very bad🙁 Im asking myself if I have enough motivation to finish this kit... (see picture 37).
1 July 2020, 17:07
TreehuggerMatching a drawing and a photo is tricky, the drawing will be 2d, while the object in the photo will be 3d and a distortion because of there being a 3d perspective view. Afaik, it probably explain the differences, or some of it I would think.
I made a 3d model of the Millennium Falcon on a computer based on nothing but photos once, so I know a thing or two about this. 🙂
If you look at the bottom of the heli kit model, there are two cavities for the landing skids, the cavities are obviously not centered in view with the camera the way you took the photo, and thus can't match well the 2d drawing.
Also, thinking back at my Dora project, one also can't easily use math and look at proportions when comparing to photos, because there might be some distortion in the photo that makes linear measurements impossible.
Afaik I read that the kit makers had pro help with this kit, so I wouldn't think they got the major parts wrong.
1 July 2020, 19:46
Choppa NuttaThe differences look due to perspective distortion to me....
print out the scale drawing to the correct size and compare directly with the model using a set square etc. 🙂
1 July 2020, 19:49
TreehuggerBtw, I have a special hatred against 2d drawings from the internet. I once asked for construction drawings from the company that makes the Bell 412, but the drawings were 'proprietary'. They did however give me promo stuff that contained some engineering drawings that was apparently super accurate. So that worked. Usually I just end up getting annoyed when finding 2d drawings on the internet, and often the drawing has all kinds of errors in it, and many looks nice but was perhaps only made to look "technical" without being accurate. 😄 Your drawing looks ok though I would think.
1 July 2020, 19:54
Slavo HazuchaThere definitely is merit to what Treehugger & Choppa (formerly wrongly called Munky by me here...) write - you would be better, there is quite a bit of perspective and angling, best seen on the dashboard - not saying it solves every issue, but the differences could be much less dramatic...
In any case, I hope this does not bomb the project, it's all too great looking for that!
1 July 2020, 20:10
Hanno KleineckeA very good modeling friend of mine told me: „You are always your own worst enemy". 🙂 The way I see it, this will be a treat for the eyes when finished, no matter what. Keep going !
1 July 2020, 20:12
Slavo HazuchaChoppa sorry, I did indeed, had a hard working day things kind of blur... Corrected in my post above! 🙂
1 July 2020, 21:35
Choppa Nuttahaha, no worries Slavo 🙂
Anyhow, here's hoping that Bernhard soldiers on with this build especially given the effort put in thus far !! 🙂
1 July 2020, 23:10
Patrick HagelsteinI'm just holding my breath for now sometimes peeking through the slits between the hands covering my eyes to see if he posts a new progress picture......
2 July 2020, 04:57
Steven Van DyckTry to make the same drawing with a top view of the helicopter, I think that gives less distortion. I didn't measure my Huey to a plan but I thunk it's a valuable test for a new model.
2 July 2020, 05:32
Marcus JVery nice built and awesome details. 👍 Go on Bernhard, want to see it finished. It's still in my stash…
2 July 2020, 05:41
Bernhard SchrockThanks for the comments and support Mates. Yesterday I have discussed the problem with my coreferent (DF). The fuselage area behind the door is too long (cabin is too far in front), so that the door is for open presantation „too short". Today morning with the 2nd cup coffee in my hand I had an idea to solve the problem: extended the lenght of the door (even if the door seems to be right in the length…).
On course again🙂
2 July 2020, 08:40
Choppa Nutta. It is impressive the lengths you go to in order to get things just right !! 🙂
2 July 2020, 10:13
Slavo HazuchaIf the plan drawing is 48-scale, why not just measure the distances section-by-section on the model and compare with the lines/measures on paper and find out where (if any) culprit is hiding? 🙂
2 July 2020, 10:57
TreehuggerI felt stupid rushing into this, so I deleted the last few comments. I suppose Bernard might be onto something. I find it interesting that, on model photos of the Kitty Hawk kit, with an open side door, there is this open space behind the door, and so it would be interesting imo to check that small excess space against photos of the UH-1D showing an open side door. Here is someone elses KH model: ibb.co/4YzJCRS (I made a circle around the area behind the door for sake of clarity.)
2 July 2020, 11:03
TreehuggerTricky but I found a relevant photo, which looks like the UH-1D: ibb.co/LrYs0Fw (image upload showing the space just behind the side door.)
Added: Here is also a photo of the UH-1N: Also, not much space behind the open side door: ibb.co/7tzbkvr (image upload)
Well shit :| Well I say just try ignore this, if the kit isn't 100%. 🙂 Afaik, only licenced kit makers might get proprietary drawings. Hehe, Bernhard is the last person on earth to buy the Dora railcannon kit in 1:72 scale, a fantasy kit where everything is basically whacky wrong when comparing to photos. 🙂 A wip project of mine. Will have to buy a lathe machine to make the barrel and wheels in the future and fix a bazillion things, a complete rebuild with new construction drawings.
I wonder if maybe this KH kit could be from prototype drawings of the UH-1D, and maybe there was some difference from the production model and any prototype models.
Added: I can't help but wonder if *maybe*, this overlap of the end of the side door and the fuselage, was somehow causing comfusion by the ones doing the drawings or the cad model, making the area behind the side door longer by that much (the overlap), as if forgetting that there is an overlap inbetween the rear part of the side doors, and the heli fuselage.
2 July 2020, 11:09
Clifford KeeslerYou are doing a great job on this kit Bernhard. Don't give up on it.
2 July 2020, 21:13
Alexander GrivonevBeautiful work as always, Bernhard. So much attention to detail👍
4 July 2020, 08:20
Hanno KleineckeAux fueltank looking very realistic !
I wonder what this amount of weight, concentrated on the port side, did to the aircrafts trim......
4 July 2020, 18:45
TreehuggerAdding all this stuff looks like a challenge for painting the stuff. I wouldn't want to having to start masking stuff only to paint stuff on the inside of the cabin.
5 July 2020, 10:02
Patrick HagelsteinPfew.... Bernhard is adding new pictures! Disaster avoided.... 🙂
5 July 2020, 13:43
Slavo HazuchaBernhard, with all the added detail - the cockpit pillars, tank & straps, gitterbox on the other side & all the stuff not mentioned, no one is ever going to even think about checking any dimensions here... Top-spec research & implementation! 👍
5 July 2020, 14:13
Rui SWell the attention to detail here is taken to the extreme. What can I say… (I find it almost unbelievable), incredible work, and patience? 👍
11 July 2020, 15:08
Bernhard SchrockFirst I would thank you for the likes and nice comments. After a good modeling day and intensive consultations with my Senior Huey Consultant (THX David) 🙂 I managed around noon to complete the cabin interior. Just now at dinner I realized that I forgot to build in the hoist.....
11 July 2020, 18:29
TreehuggerThat is a nice hoist. 🙂
Hm.. I wonder if anybody makes vacuum canopy parts for the Kitty Hawk Huey's. Probably not, but that would be nice. Having said that, I guess it is entirely possible the clear parts are really nice. I've started buying vacuum canopies for various kits, when I find them on sale. 🙂 Sometimes, without having the kit to go with it.
11 July 2020, 19:38
Slavo HazuchaThe interior in full color looks epic! 👍 You and your consultant are setting a benchmark for excellent-looking, true to original model-making here... Especially like all the "telephone cables" and the line with the hooks + the consistency in scale appearance of it all!
11 July 2020, 20:09
Bernhard SchrockCabin roof, fuselage top and engine bay in place. I recommend the following sequence: B34 first (not together with B30), B34. Then step 7 of the instruction sheet in following sequence: B5, B13, B7, C82/83.
12 July 2020, 08:52
TreehuggerQuestion to Bernhard, do you like trying to round off the hard metal edge off PE parts sometimes? 🙂
13 July 2020, 16:25
Bernhard SchrockTreehugger: yes. I do it with Flexifiles or with a balsa wood block coated with sanding paper.
14 July 2020, 13:25
Michael PhillipsSimply amazing work here Berhard! The attention to detail is just incredible. Inspiring, to say the least!
15 July 2020, 14:44
bughunterYou do know that if you keep this up, you're gonna need aerospace engineering certification?
15 July 2020, 16:12
Slavo HazuchaThe lower nose clear parts look fabulous - clear as clear can get & no warping/distortions whatsoever... 👍 And the show inside is just as good 🙂
20 July 2020, 11:49
TreehuggerI have to smile at the spiral wiring for the top side cockpit suff. 🙂 Maybe some kind of comms stuff.
Augh. The Kitty Hawk release seems worse every week . :| Even the box art got the canopy front glass right, but perhaps they lazily copied one side of the front glass onto the other side, including the one unique angled corner. :| Obviously Kitty Hawk don't know what they are doing at this point, unless somehow there are UH1-D's with that angled corner on both sides of the front glass. I had such high hopes for that kit release, being a new UH1-D and all. No way I am going to bother paying out of my nose for the UH-1N version ever, but maybe at some serious discount.
I am sure your model will end up looking very nice though. 🙂
29 July 2020, 11:08
Bernhard SchrockAfter gluing the windscreen I began with the detailing the fuselage. While detailing the nose I realized that KH's lower windows are wider than windows on Bundeswehr machines (compare the pictures 83 and 84). It turned out that all BE machines were produced by Dornier and they were different from the original Bell produced helicopters.
29 July 2020, 18:57
Slavo HazuchaWhile the KH kit appears to be remarkably "buildable", at least in relation to the usual manufacturer reputation (nice parts/problematic fit/horrible build-group design is all that comes to mind...), the comparison with what you aim to build is an outright minefield... What's up next, a three-bladed main rotor?😉
I watch your valiant and creative build with growing interest though, every challenge followed by an adequate solution - keep it up and the laurels of ultimate victory shall rightfully be bestowed upon you! 👍
29 July 2020, 19:06
scalematesLooking forward to see how you will fix it! I do think it is positive news, the other way around would be more difficult to fix
29 July 2020, 19:31
TreehuggerAh what a fun fix to the problem with the lower front canopy glass parts that was supposed to be smaller or less wide.
30 July 2020, 15:29
Patrick HagelsteinI had some problems with orange covering over white primer, so I'm curious how well the yellow base coat improves the orange paint's opacity. Bring it on! 🙂
2 August 2020, 22:21
Bernhard SchrockPatrick; what is the reason why do you use white as base color? Imo white is not optimal base for colors such orange or red. The "difference" is to great to produce a homogeneous saturation. As usual I'm using for orange yellow as base and for red pinkish grey as base (see f.e. the NH-3 album).
3 August 2020, 07:41
bughunterOrange? Great copper painting 👍😉 Let's wait for the final pictures. Absolut great work, as usual - in Anlehnung an ein Lied: "Er _ist_ ein Zauberer"!
3 August 2020, 08:47
Oliver ZwienerTolles Projekt - erinnert mich an meinen Mitflug mit der UH-1D im Rahmen des ULR 1999 Otto-Lilienthal-Kaserne Heeresflugplatz Roth bei Nürnberg 🙂
3 August 2020, 09:03
Patrick HagelsteinHallo Bernhard, die weisse Grundierung war nur weil ich die neue Tamiya Lacquer Farben ausprobieren wollte. Deswegen hatte ich für eine leichte Grundfarbe gewählt. Leider musste ich etwas schleifen und erhielt so einige dunklere Stellen, die ich nur sehr mühsam bewältigen konnte. Vielleicht dass da eine Schicht gelb besser gewesen wäre. Aaaaaaber, deshalb war es ja auch ein Teststück und habe ich jetzt schon zwei Sachen gelernt. 1) Orange ist, obwohl meine Landesfarbe und meine Lieblingsfarbe, eine sehr schwierig zu bewältigende Farbe, und 2) Eine homogene, bevorzüglich gelbe Grundierung sollte besser wirken. Vielen Dank für diene Erklärung! 👍 🙂
3 August 2020, 16:43
Slavo HazuchaLooking almost like the "Bronze Tiger" Typhoon type of Orange in those pics😉 And really good work with the faded touches!
I don't get to do much of Orange works myself unfortunately, but I'd say this color & its tonal brethren really are essentially very social creatures... It just matters that bit more what's under them & next them to bring out the right final tone... 🙂
Seeing you treat the Geisha-esque art of Orange/Red & White, I'm sure the German Green-Orange coupling will come out just as great... 👍
3 August 2020, 17:09
Pero SusingerThis indeed looks more like a bronze than an orange. But in the end the result is important. Or how we in Germany say: "Entscheidend ist, was hinten rauskommt." 😄
And I have no doubts at all that this will end how it has started: exceptional.
3 August 2020, 17:40
Bernhard SchrockI did not expect to create so much of an impact with my quick pictures shot in bad light... It REALLY is orange. 🙂
3 August 2020, 19:39
Slavo HazuchaAnd we did not even started on the dreaded topic of Orange peel...😉
3 August 2020, 20:07
TreehuggerWhat am I looking at in photo 105, showing some kind of pattern on the top of the heli? Some kind of aftermarket product?
9 August 2020, 12:46
Bernhard SchrockPicture 105; Treehugger: you have eagle eyes! This is a 3D decal by DF Helostuff for representing the typical UH-1 - anti skid coating. Excellent printed and easy to applying.
9 August 2020, 13:08
Bernhard SchrockWith great enthusiasm I mixed the RAL 6014 again and airbrushed yesterday the entire fuselage. While doing this I made a stupid mistake: I didn't check if the color matches what I already painted (boom). So the fuselage is greener than the rest 🙁
Fortunately I managed to fix this easily. As soon I was finished I discovered after removing the window masks a further problem: obviously I mest the masking of the windows openings and so both middle and both upper windows are full of airbrushing dust (inner side🙁😢. It took me about one hour of cleaning up with micro brushes and acid. 🙂
10 August 2020, 14:32
Slavo HazuchaThis build just can't stop throwing them issues at you...
A wilful & difficult child to raise indeed, but watching from some distance, I can tell you there is an exceptional gem growing in your cradle...😉
10 August 2020, 16:01
Bernhard SchrockThx Mates. I'm happy to see that you like the Teppichklopfer🙂. Decals are now in place.
10 August 2020, 19:33
Felix Troschierimpressed as usual! But German Hueys don't have the airscoops above the roof position lights 😉
11 August 2020, 09:19
Bernhard SchrockThx for comments and likes. Last 200 m to run. Most of the problems and hurdles are done. Felix: thx for the hint. I overlooked this... and will fix them.
11 August 2020, 11:07
Florian H.Wait for fixing this with the airscoops, there were 4 or 5 german Hueys who had them....😉
11 August 2020, 11:33
Bernhard SchrockDanke für Info Florian: immerhin ein kleiner Trost🙂 die 71+47 hatte diese Inlets definitiv nicht. Auf dem Foto von S.Wache via David kann man es gut sehen.
11 August 2020, 13:25
scalematesLooking at the best reference picture you need to make some fundamental changes 😛
scalemates.com/kits/..l-uh-1-huey--1090994
11 August 2020, 13:41
Erik OffIch frag einfach mal: Weiß vlt. jemand, welche Nummer der SAR-Klopfer in Aachen-Merzbrück (ab 1974) hatte? Der flog ~20 Jahre lang täglich 2x über unser Haus. Ich finde dazu verschiedene Kennungen.
11 August 2020, 16:58
TreehuggerWhat is the diameter of those brass pipes for the undercarriage? 😛 I'd like to know.
14 August 2020, 16:47
TreehuggerThank you. Do you take orders? 🙂 Otherwise I have to figure out this myself. I guess one can bend stuff using "knots", which afaik is used for shaping boat planks, or I guess I can try check out that tool you mentioned. But some tools seems so very very expensive, especially large photo etch bending tools. 🙂
14 August 2020, 18:03
Mathijs BeenhakkerEhm WAUW!!...however just a small request...could you use a darker background for the pictures...all your fine and hard work sometimes blends in with the background color which in my opinion is a shame because your doing such a fine job
22 August 2020, 12:24
Bernhard SchrockYesterday I managed the last airbush session and could finish today the rotor and the entire Teppichklopfer without mess🙂 I postet the first batch of pictures. The remaning comming soon.
23 August 2020, 13:52
Gary DahlströmThat last pic, of the nose, is just wonderful. Masterful work Bernhard, really exemplary. With all the great-looking Hueys posted recently I won't be building one anytime soon for fear of being compared to these all-stars. 🤔
23 August 2020, 15:11
Slavo HazuchaSuperb work from the very beginning and a great first bunch of finished pictures indeed 👍 Impossible to pick one highlight, the whole thing & project is a highlight start to finish... 🙂
I really like watching your projects (similar to bughunters) - you apply engineering solutions I could not (and often do not even feel the urge to...) replicate - sometimes I steal and massively simplify an idea at best - but it´s an extremely satisfactory feeling to watch & see come to bear fruit... 👍
23 August 2020, 17:23
Hanno KleineckePefection on skids, once again a masterpiece off your bench ! Looking forward to see all these delicate details in real tomorrow....👍
23 August 2020, 18:53
Gary KitchenFor a novice like me, this is mind blowing attention to detail, perseverance and craftsmanship. Awesome.
23 August 2020, 20:12
David FunkeI think I´ll have to steal this model from you, during the next exhibition... 😉 😄 hahahahaha. well done, Sir!
24 August 2020, 06:47
Bernhard SchrockThank you for the nice comments. I had great luck by building this machine because get tons of original pics and buildings hints (thx David🙂. KH's kit is a good base but unfortunately not free of errors.
Maverick212: I used thin black anodized wire (0,1 mm and 0,2 mm) purchased any years ago by Rairo (a modelshop in Germany).
24 August 2020, 07:39
NeulingAll those interior details and the cleanness of this build make it an exceptional work. One has to take time to watch these pictures.
24 August 2020, 18:53
Sergej IYeah, this is another world... I enjoyed watching the show and the final product is just stunning! Master!
26 August 2020, 16:47
Christian KohlHey Bernhard, I don't have any words! This is art! Wow, wow, wow. It's a beautiful work! Very, very well done. Respekt!
20 September 2020, 18:06
Günther DecockKnap werk Bernhard. Zoveel detail. Heb met veel plezier naar de foto's gekeken.
20 September 2020, 20:15
Ben SchumacherBernhard, ich bin nicht up-to-date, wie es scheint - wunderschön, mehr muss man da nicht sagen. Eine echte Augenweide!
4 November 2020, 14:21
